Top Listener Comment: Ryan aka Young Rrrrrrrrrr(ah)!

Honestly I’m close to giving up on the NBA. Ever since Michael became a star David Stearn has been capitalizing on ratings and controlling the games.

Lets face it, as good as LeBron is at driving, he’s a TERRIBLE shooter. This is the first year that he’s actually had a consistent jumpshot. And as for being a great defender, I suppose he is, that is if you go by the same rules DWade has - pushing someone so hard they turn the opposite directions and then being credited with a block.

This Cleveland team pisses me off to no end, especially Verajo. My god is he the most obvious flopper and as you guys said he gets all the calls in the world since he’s on team Le-I’m-gonna-miss-a-wide-open-layup-but-get-35-free-throws-anyways-Bron

Well 2009 is official over… How’s the Pistonscast Posse feeling?

seasons over..now lets look to save up for 2010 and maybe we can get this guy who just ended our season

Hey thanks for posting this!

I’m feeling like we need an NBA commissioner who doesn’t run the league for the sole purpose of making money. The games are no longer legit because he has the referees biased in series’ and nothing’s fair anymore.

Or maybe the NBA should be training a bunch of new referees. Create a 7 year NBA referee college or something.

It’s become NBE - National Basketball Entertainment.

As for the team of the Detroit Pistons, we can only get better with the offseason. I’m sure deals will be made — just hopefully they’ll be the right deals.

FML…new beginning

I wouldn’t want LeBron James to become a Detroit Piston.

Oh, and did you see the halftime of today’s game? Maurice Williams said one of his favorite clutch shooters of all time was “The Microwave,” and they showed the Bad Boys… but they put “Dennis ‘The Microwave’ Johnson” in writing on the screen.

I said to myself: “DENNIS?!”

Not only does ESPN’s commentating suck, but HOW do you put DENNIS ‘THE MICROWAVE’ instead of VINNIE?!

Yeah I heard about that, just goes to show how much the NBA knows/loves Detroit

No excuses, the Pistons just aren’t very good anymore. Good riddance to Rasheed and AI. I know AI isn’t to blame, but his attitude in the end sucked and I cannot forgive that. Stuckey is overrated. Yeah, it hurts me to say that, but it is true. I’m officially on the “Trade Tayshaun” bandwagon. Consistency is one thing, but Detroit needed Prince to improve, not flatline. Rip is Rip, serviceable but not a #1 option. Maxiell went backwards, Amir just isn’t good, Hermann isn’t neither. Curry is not a good coach and his players quit on him.

Now, for my very few brightspots: Bynum was a find. However, he is still just a very good backup. I love Aaron Afflalo and i’m glad we have him. He is a keeper. Stuckey can be a good 2-guard, but he is not a PG. Kwame Brown was decent for what he is: an athletic big who can rebound and defend, just don’t ask him to do much more.

And lastly, Antonio McDyess deserves better. I hope he leaves and joins a championship contender and gets a ring because he doesn’t need to be around this cast of misfits any longer.

this member is feeling sad! but atleast its over so i dont have to watch the pain anymore! BRIGHT SIDE.. we get to listen to the rest of the pistonscast best of! lol!!!

Looks like everyone wants AI and Sheed gone. I wonder what Joe D wants…

i love sheed but he just needs to go

John, please give me a reasoning as to why Joe would even consider bringing either of those two back.

I have no reasons. I’m just putting it out there. Joe hasn’t made a Big Time Roster Move in 2+ years right now… I trust him but I just want to make sure his mojo is still there and he doesn’t give in and bring back Sheed because he find a better player than ole Roscoe.

Sheed might play one more year I just hope he don’t Im not going to front I like sheed but he is old and can’t play like he use 2 btw John what big time move are you talking about the one that involve getting rid of darko lol.

I had originally thought Sheed might come back on a short term deal, but not anymore. Game 6, he looked so disinterested. He goes 0-7 after going 2-12 in Game 6 against the Celtics in last year’s playoffs. Ouch.

The DetNews had a good article today on who would be back next season. They said Stuckey, AA, Bynum, Rip (probably), and Kwame. And that’s it.

I love Tay, but I just don’t think he has it anymore. We need someone to check the elite SFs in the East….Iguadola, Turkoglu, Pierce, Granger, LeBron….Tay just isn’t that guy anymore. I say we trade him now before we can’t get anything for him. He is almost 30.

I still believe Stuckey can be our PG of the future. You look at his stats and they are identical to Billups’ 2nd season. And really, what PGs are great right from the start? Not Nash, not Billups, not Devin Harris, not Tony Parker, not Monta Ellis.

People should stop assuming that Stuckey will play like Billups immediately.

Obviously the biggest things going into next season is the frontcourt. I’d prefer to get Bosh & Okafar, but we’ll see. People talk about getting Bosh, Millsap, Boozer, Lee, etc, but none of those guys are centers. You really want your starting C next year to be Kwame?

And then we need to get a SF who can somewhat check LBJ, Pierce, etc. I say Ron Artest.

@Charles Remember when we got Chauncey he mad 6 million dollars as a Finals MVP. Thats the kind of move Joe D needs to make.

Unfortunately, there are no free agents out there like Billups when we signed him. I just don’t see where Dumars can make a splash unless Toronto, Phoenix, or Washington getting anxious and decide to trade Bosh, Amare, or Butler.

As for Ron Artest, i’m just not sure Dumars would even go there.

@TADOne Hindsight is 50/50. Who knew Billups would be so good? He needs to make another find like that. I dont know who but that’s not my job. Thats Joe D’s job to pull off another Chauncey type free agent pickup!

There are so many cash-strapped teams out there that will be looking to dump players’ salaries this summer. Remember Marcus Camby last summer?

I read some articles (can’t remember where) that discussed how a team like the Bucks is going to have to make decisions this summer. They have a payroll of over $64 million next season, excluding their first round draft pick. They have restricted FAs in Ramon Sessions and Charlie Villanueva. They just can’t afford to keep everyone on that teams, like an Andrew Bogut.

NEW Pistonscast Episode 104: http://tinyurl.com/cgtgku

my plan is sign ben gordon, trade rip to new orleans for tyson chandler, sign boozer. that leaves us with a starting lineup of stuck, ben gordon, tay, boozer, west. preferrably i would trade tay to new orleans only that would leave us with a small lineup with rip at the SF. i like the possibilities though

i meant to say a starting lineup of stuck, gordon, tay, boozer, and chandler. if it was david west we would be too small

@Rich you can get Chandler for almost free. They had a trade for Chris Wilcox and Joe Smith.

Anyway why do you keep trying to get injury prone players?

What make you think they wont get hurt again?

*I do like Ben Gordon tho!

Ben Gordon would be nice, but he reminds me of AI too much. A undersized, streaky SG w/ a big ego. A perfect bench player, but not w/ his attitude and asking price of $10+ million.

If Gordon wants to come off the bench for $6-8 million, then fine. He would be “the guy” if he came off the bench. He’s younger and a great, great shooter when he’s on that stretches the defense. But he turned down a 5 year, $50 million offer from the Bulls.

The Pistons need a legit Center, that’s for sure. But Chandler? I don’t know, I suppose he’s better than nothing, but he’s been injured lately and a bit underweight. But he is only 26 years old. I don’t know.

I’d prefer to get a legit 4 first, like Bosh.

tayshuan, amir, and draft picks for bosh

Here’s an option Kieth Langois brought up: sign Marvin Williams.

He’s just as tall as Tay, but much stronger and an above average defender - not to mention cheaper, I estimate around $7 mil/year. So that makes Tayshaun expendable, meaning that a trade with Toronto is very possible for Bosh. I think most likely Tay, our 1st rounder, and Amir should do it. So now our team has Rodney Stuckey, Marvin Williams and Chris Bosh. Now for the center.

I personally think Kwame is great for the $4 mil he gets paid, however to compete for a title we’ll need either for him to have better hands or someone else. Since Marvin Williams will cost about $2.5 mil less, that means if you package Kwame and some draft picks for Chandler, you only go about a mil or two. So now we have Rodney, Williams, Bosh and Chandler.

Lastly is the SG. Keith predicts that Ben Gordon should be getting a contract for around $8 or $9 mil/year. I say do a sign and trade with Chicago (lets face it, Rip is getting older and he’s no where near as good of a 3 point shooter or taking people off the dribble) by sending Rip, our 3 second rounders and cash considerations to Chicago.

So now we have a team of Stuckey, Gordon, Williams, Bosh and Chandler. And don’t forget a bench that consists of Bynumite, Afflalo, Fabio, and Maxiel.

Instant All Star lineup, and this is actually very doable if Dumars is really the great GM he is used to be. Best part is, all these guys are very young, so this will be a title contender for up to 7 or 8 years as long as no one leaves through free agency. The only problem is we probably can’t get our man Walt any playing time with this lineup, but I’ll take it

*note that with this move, even though Chandler has been dealing with injuries, I’ll take toe problems over knee problems (Boozer). And considering that he’ll be near free, if he does play at least 75 games it’ll make Dumars look like a genious. Or if he doesn’t, I’m hoping that a frontline with Bosh and Maxiell should be enough to hold the fort down

Not a bad lineup. Ali.

My only concern, as previously stated, about Gordon is his size. And when his shot isn’t falling he’s pretty much useless. And would Chicago really do that deal? I don’t see why. What they want to do is to unload Hinrich since he’s being paid $9 million to be a backup PG.

I’ve already said for my piece about Chandler. But what about Andrew Bogut? He’s on the cash-strapped Bucks and is better than Chandler in almost every category there is, not to mention he’s 2 years younger and his contract is not even that bad. Although, I’m not sure what it would take to get him. If Chander can be had for basically Kwame, then yeah, let’s do that.

As for Marvin Williams, wow, that guy is really good and really underrated. I think he would be a great option at SF since he basically beats Tay in every category and is 7 years younger.

It’s great that we can even talk about all these different players. If Joe D keeps Chauncey, then we’re essentially stuck w/ the same roster for next season(s).

So building off of Ali….

Sign Marvin Williams for $7-9 million.

Trade Tayshaun+Amir and/or Maxiell for Chris Bosh+t contract(?)

Trade Kwame for Andrew Bogut/Tyson Chandler.

Sign Ben Gordon for $8-9 million (bench).

Lineups:
Stuckey/Hamilton/Marvin Williams/Bosh/Chandler (or Bogut)

Bynum/Ben Gordon/Aaron Affalo/Maxiell

I dont know if yall already knew this but the Raptors are actually interested in Tay. Check this out:

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/58730/20090423/raptors_interested_in_prince/

No excuses - the Pistons aren’t very good. McDyess is great, but should go elsewhere to get his ring. Keep Stuckey, Afflalo, Bynam, and Maxiell. I like Tay and Rip, but trade them if the deal is right. Package the rest in a trade if possible. Draft? LIving in Columbia, MO I’ve watched DeMarre Carroll at Mizzou. Use a 2nd round pick to get him. At 6′8″, 225 he can take Amir’s place and actually bring energy and solid play off the bench. Careful on the free agent market - the big guys are available in 2010 so save some cap space.

I don’t think you could sign Ben gordon and hold onto Hamilton, the cap is decreasing this summer so one of them would have to go. Another possibility is sign Gordon but trade Rip. Gordon is shorter than Rip, but don’t forget he is also much stronger and is a better outside shooter, something we need to free up the lane for Stuckey. I liken his game to that of Ray Allen, who Rip models his game off of if you didn’t know.

As for Bogut, I’d say that’s a toss up between him and Chandler, since Chandler is the better rebounder but Bogut has a better offensive game.

However there is a major risk with Bogut in that he’s coming off a major back injury while Chandler has turf toe. Even if Chandler is affected by that toe, it won’t bother him nearly to the degree a bad back would. Besides the Bucks have no intention of getting rid of him for free as they’re in no where near the financial situation the Hornets are.

espn article said how they were excited they dont have to watch the pistons and spurs slow ball him to death until june!! we need sum HUGE CHANGES THIS YEAR! start out fresh!! i think we need to get sheed and tay or rip.. NOT BOTH! out of here!

PLEASE SAY NO TO BEN GORDON! I’m sorry, Gordon is not that good. Other than streaky scoring, Gordon is useless. Please, please, watch him for a full game. He is not worth the $10+ mil he wants. No thank you.

As for the cash-strapped Bucks, I do like Ramon Sessions. A lot. He is very underrated and he may be another Billups, meaning he is someone who people slept on or overlooked. Same with Marvin Williams.

By that same definition Ray Allen is a worthless streaky shooter. Look if you’ve got a good post game and a slasher, then you need a 3 point threat to spread the floor. Otherwise defenses will just clog the lane like they did against Stuckey and AI in that 8 game losing streak.

I’m fine if you can point out a better all around 3 point shooter that’s available right now, but until then Ben Gordon is our best bet.

As for Ramon Sessions, I highly doubt the Bucks will give him up very easily, even if that means paying a lot of luxury taxes. When Chauncey was a free agent no one wanted him because he hadn’t quite put it together as a point guard. However everyone knows that Sessions is very capable of both scoring and setting up others so I doubt you’ll be able to get him easily. Plus his contract makes him even more valuable to the Bucks.

As for Marvin Williams, that’s exactly what I’m saying. Sign him and trade Tay+(1 big) for Bosh. I don’t see why Toronto would pass up on that, they’ve got a center, a PF, a shooting guard and PG, but no small forward and need better defense.

I hear you Ali. However, Gordon turned down $10 mil a year from the Bulls. As good as a 3 point shooter he may be, i’m not paying an undersized 2 guard who does little else. The Ray Allen comparison is bad. Allen can play defense, rebound, drive-and-kick, drive-and-finish, is a leader, and is the best 3 point shooter in the game. When Allen was Gordon’s age, he was a perennial All Star, not a streaky off the bench shooter. So again, thanks, but no thanks.

As for Sessions, I think that someone could get Ramon for the right price. Milwaukee thinks so highly of Sessions that Luke Ridnour starts over him. It was only after Ridnour got hurt that Ramon was handed the starting role. Milwaukee as a team is bleeding money. They cannot afford to pay the luxury tax on a team that isn’t in the playoffs. They are already paying Bogut, Redd, Jefferson, and Villanueva. Someone is going to be sacrificed.

We are in agreement on Marvin Williams, however.

@TADOne Im with you on Ramon Sessions. He is one of my fav players for Fantasy Basketball. He racks up assists… my only problem with him is the lack of a 3-point shot.

This could be good tho because it forces him to penetrate which is something we sorely lack.

I am for Sessions at any decent price like 5-8 million dollars.

I like a team that starts Sessions, Stuckey and Afflalo. Give me a Big or two and Im good!

gordon can also drive well, kick out or finish. And don’t forget that when Allen is off, he’s way off. He’s already had an awful game this series and couldn’t find his shot at all until the conference finals last year. In addition he was a mediocre defender at best before he went to Boston, even AI was twice the defender coming out of Detroit (meaning you can coach defense, the hard part is getting players to commit).

However I do realize that Gordon’s biggest shortcoming is his height. He’s stronger than Rip, but other guys can shoot over him like they did to Rip at SF. As far as I know beyond Turkoglu there’s no other good 3 point shooter as a free agent this year.

IMO there’s no point in drafting a guard unless if its Wayne ellington - best outside shooter in the late rounds - because I guarantee you Afflalo will surpass Rip by the time Rip’s contract expires. Judging by the magnitude of growth Afflalo had just last summer, I think he can be a solid 16-20 pt with 40% from 3. However that does not fix the immediate need.

I wish the Pistons would have bought Rudy Fernandez’s contract last summer, Pheonix sold it for something like $2 mil in cash considerations. There is a shot at getting Jason Richardson, no defense but he’s really strong, athletic and a consistent 3 point shooter. Michael Redd should be on the market but he’s just as old as Rip and is coming off a bad injury. Tmac lol?

Take a look at the SG stats at ESPN, and tell me who you see on the list that will be easily available and also has a better resume than Ben Gordon for a similar price. There’s a lot of good young guys, such as Courtney Lee, but I highly doubt the Pistons will be able to pry them away in this economy.

@Ali Don’t rule out moving to Stuckey to the 2 and getting a value PG or even drafting Jonny Flynn or Ty Lawson at Number 15.

I believe that Stuckey can play the Point, even excel at it but in my heart I think he just wants to score and not worry about setting his teammates up.

I agree, but Dumars has already said that Stuckey is our PG of the future. Besides he’s got no 3 point shot, so that wouldn’t make him an effective shooting guard because defenses will just sit back and clog the lane, preventing him and said point guard from squirming their way in like Rondo or even overpowering others like Wade.

Ali… How effective is D Wade? I feel like Stuckey is lite version of D-Wade.

I would rather take it to the HOOP 100 times and get fouled than take a slightly open 3 point shot.

Also, don’t believe everything Joe D says.

We all know we need to make some big moves.

All I’m saying is dont rule anything out because I’m sure Joe D is looking at all options.

Who knows Ali, our 3 point shooter might be at the SF position.

Two Penetrators like Sessions and Stuckey and a shooting Wing player and you are back in business.

You know NBA defenders are lazy and will let Sessions and Stuckey have there way in the lane.

Get Sessions as our PG, move Stuckey to the 2, sign Marvin Williams as our SF (he CAN shoot 3’s), trade Tay and Amir for Bosh, and keep Kwame as our 5 until an adequate replacement comes along. Look at trade options for Rip as well. Hell, i’m pretty much open to anything at this point. I’m wondering if Richard Jefferson would welcome a new address? That would free the Bucks up from his contract. If i’m Dumars, i’m kicking tires all around the league.

True but Stuckey is no where as good as finishing as Wade is - not yet anyways, he had a big improvement over last year and hopefully that second jump will come over the summer - and his offense was shut down in that 8 game losing streak because of that. He needs to dunk more, that’ll cause a good number of people to get out of his way, just think of when Tony Parker ran away from LeBron.

So adding Marvin Williams or Turkoglu will give the element of a shooting Wing, but then who do you expect to slide in at point? Ty Lawson was a great scorer but an average distributor. And once again I doubt the Bucks will give up Sessions very easily.

To be honest I think Rodney was a very good distributor at the end of the season, getting in the paint and kicking it out - people just missed a bunch of wide open shots. IMO, you’ll see much higher assist numbers next when they put better shooters around him and give him a consistent post player.

Also don’t forget John, Stuckey never gets any foul calls. Its rediculous how much he gets wacked around in the paint only to get nothing in return.

I wouldn’t mind Jefferson, he’s a great shooter, in fact he reminds a lot of Chauncey in their style of play and build. Only gripe is that williams is much younger, so that means a longer title run.

Ok so I’ve got it. Best lineup evAr. Resign Sheed for 6 year $24 mil; trade Amir, Kwame, Maxiell and Sharpe for Verajo; sell Stuckey’s contract on ebay; used money to get Derek Fisher but place him at center; hire Isaiah Thomas as the GM in order to play Dumars at the 2 and lastly have Fabio run the point. See perfect lineup, guarantees more than 38 wins anyways (you said you were open to anything :p)

A few thoughts:

1) Yes, I defintly agree that Stuckey doesn’t get the foul calls. Hopefully that will come with time.

2) The Pistons played at the slowest pace in the entire NBA, so that obviously has an effect on Stuckey’s (somewhat) low assist numbers (4.9 a game).

3) Also, that Stuckey had to share the ball w/ Allen Iverson for most of the season. That would make anyone’s assists numbers drop.

4) The Pistons (like Ali said), had no post presence this season. Sheed & Dyess are jump shooting bigs. Put a Boozer or a Bosh down low & Stuckey is going to rack up the assists.

Curry talked about playing faster next year. So I can see Stuckey averaging 17-7-4 next season easily.

Last nite’s actions just further proves that the NBA is a set up organization. They slipped up when Dwight was not called for the elbow and Rondo was not called for the flagerant foul. We know now who’s gonna win those two series.

note that they did in fact call a tech for Dwight’s elbow.

However I totally agree that the NBA has its favorites, and Boston is clearly one of them. Think of back in the playoffs when KG got off the bench in that brawl and even pushed aside a ref but was not suspended. The Celts would have lost the series had he been suspended, but Lamar Odom and Amare Stoudemire are suspended for just standing up off the bench. And yes that should have been a flagrant 2 on the Rondo, he clearly went for the head and not the ball.

But I don’t think you should give up on the Bulls just yet, don’t forget they get a lot of calls (especially Rose and Gordon). Eitherway it doesn’t matter, we know that the finals is going to come down to Kobe vs LeBron. A Celts Lakers rematch just does not sound as interesting to the general public, so ratings would go down.

More Pistons trades: Tay, Rip for Bosh, Kapano; (http://bit.ly/7Crid). Sign Ben Gordon, Ron Artest (or Lamar Odom), & Grant Hill.

Starters: Stuckey, Gordon, Artest/Odom, Bosh, Kwame

Bench: Bynum, Afflalo, Grant Hill, Maxiell

Whoops, revision:

Starters: Stuckey, Gordon, Artest or Odom, Bosh, Kwame

Bench: Bynum, Afflalo, Kapano, Grant Hill, Maxiell

@Steve Lets start the bring back Grant Hill movement. I tried to start it last year in the Amare trade but if we support the movement, it just might happen!

I haven’t heard anyone address the coaching situation. Can MC do the job? What kind of players will compliment his coaching style(What ever the hell that style is)? When Flip took over, he inherited a pretty good team, and was able to dominate on the offensive end of the ball, but he lacked the ability to get the most out of his players on the defensive end. It doesn’t matter who you bring over, if you don’t have someone to coach them, we’re still screwed.

As far as players go, the only person that really stands out to me is Chris Bosh. I like Boozer because of his inside game and the ability to rebound, but I don’t think he’s is the kind of guy that you could build a team around. Chris Bosh has proven that he can do just that and he’s 3 years younger.

I’m sorry but I see absolutely nothing in Rodney Stuckey’s game that says he would be better in the two guard position. Anytime you get 6′5’ 205lbs 22 year old that is fast and can handle like that, you gottta, “ PUT EM IN”. Seriously, we will see Stuck excel when we first, come with a fresh identity. The Pistons are playing soft and every team in the league knows it. Second, determine what style of play best fits him. Right now he’s playing like his mentor Chauncey Billups with shades of the real Rodney peeking out every once in awhile.

I agree with Stephen A. Smith, we gotta PUT EM IN. He needs the ball in his hands to dominate. Besides with his strength, speed and height advantage given 2 years it would be a waste of time to go groom another pg.

I think that MC can do a decent the job if Dumars fields the right vets. There’s no way you see Sheed back so no worries there. And I doubt you’ll see Tay back either. So considering we’ll have 3, possibly 4 new starters next year it can be like a fresh start. And my reasoning here is that Vinnie Del Negro looked like an awful coach at the start of the season, and yet look at how good their team became when they got Brad Miller and John Salmons. Or look at how bad people thought Doc Rivers was until he got Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen.

I think that we did not get to see what Michael Curry had drawn up earlier over the summer in his defensive rotations and offensive sets because of the Chauncey Trade. Granted we also know he does not have the experience for a good playoff coach yet because he could not make good in game adjustments - but that should come with time.

As Artest, would love to have him but you know there’s absolutely no shot of that happening right? And Grant Hill would be great but he said its either Pheonix or retirement (and he’s too valuable to Pheonix anyways, he and Steve Nash are the untouchables there). Odom isn’t a small forward, he can play the position but he lacks the lateral quickness to play it effectively for 40 minutes a game.

The new rumor i’ve heard has the Hornets willing to give David West up in a trade. While I like West, I feel as though he is a byproduct of playing with Chris Paul. Now, i’m not saying West isn’t good or wouldn’t be good w/o Paul, but he isn’t an All Star if Paul isn’t his PG. Thoughts?

Also, here is something that has been bothering me: the Rip Hamilton re-up at the beginning of the season. I feel as though Rip was one of the players who gave up on the season once he realized the Pistons were no longer serious contenders. Because of this, i’d be willing to look at moving him; however, when he signed his new contract he became virtually untradeable. No one wants to pay $11+ mil for a player that can only thrive on a team that runs him off multiple screens. He is now an albatross contract, IMO.

Just think, if we never re-signed Rip to that new deal, he would be great trade bait with only one year remaining on his deal. Ugh, hindsight….

@TAD David West. Well…1st thing he is 29 so thats fairly old. Other than that I dont know. If we can get David West for free like Camby to the Clippers I guess I would take him…

Yeah but you won’t get West free, he’s a great fit with Chris Paul and I don’t think the Hornets are that desperate yet. Realisticly the only feasible options towards getting a star big man either require somehow getting Bosh via trade or FA next year or taking a chance on Boozer. Just about every other team that’s got a star big has enough money to hold onto them and would never give them away cheap.

How about Troy Murphy? He’s like a younger version of Sheed with much better rebounding numbers. Indiana already has Roy Hibbert and he looks to be a star defensive center, so that makes Hibbert expendable. I’m not sure what the Pacers would want in return, but they can’t be doing much better than the rest of the league financially and even the lakers did a salary dump this year.

Also I’m sure the wizards would love to get Jamison off their hands if they get Griffin. The only major problem there is that Jamison is already 32, so there’s no telling what he will still be able to do next year.

Also another option could be available if Memo opts out of his contract, albeit I’m not sure he would want to come back to Detroit with the nature of his exit.

I’ll take David West if he’s a secondary acquisition. Not if he’s the big splash this summer.

All I know is that the Pistons need a SF not names Tayshaun Prince. That is all.

@Ali Dont be so sure New Orleans wont give West away.

They tried to give Tyson “Turf Toe” Chandler away but he couldnt pass a physical. Like I said West is 29 and the Hornets are projected to owe a 7 million dollar luxury tax.

They have one of the cheapest owners in the league and going over the cap down there is not going to fly.

Stranger things have happened and In MY Opinion the Hornets are that desperate!

Perhaps, but if they do then the question is how much of his offense comes from Chris Paul. He had an average season this year and wasn’t that great until Chris Paul was drafted

@ ali right thats why he is a throw in to me. He is unproven without Chris Paul.