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	<title>Comments on: Top Listener Comment: Ryan aka Young Rrrrrrrrrr(ah)!</title>
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		<title>By: John W. Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.pistonscast.com/blog/2009/04/26/top-listener-comment-ryan-aka-young-rrrrrrrrr/comment-page-1/#comment-2179</link>
		<dc:creator>John W. Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 06:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ ali right thats why he is a throw in to me.  He is unproven without Chris Paul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ ali right thats why he is a throw in to me.  He is unproven without Chris Paul.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali Hassani</title>
		<link>http://www.pistonscast.com/blog/2009/04/26/top-listener-comment-ryan-aka-young-rrrrrrrrr/comment-page-1/#comment-2178</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali Hassani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 23:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps, but if they do then the question is how much of his offense comes from Chris Paul.  He had an average season this year and wasn't that great until Chris Paul was drafted</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps, but if they do then the question is how much of his offense comes from Chris Paul.  He had an average season this year and wasn&#8217;t that great until Chris Paul was drafted</p>
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		<title>By: John W. Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.pistonscast.com/blog/2009/04/26/top-listener-comment-ryan-aka-young-rrrrrrrrr/comment-page-1/#comment-2169</link>
		<dc:creator>John W. Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 02:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ali Dont be so sure New Orleans wont give West away.  

They tried to give Tyson "Turf Toe" Chandler away but he couldnt pass a physical.  Like I said West is 29 and the Hornets are projected to owe a 7 million dollar luxury tax.  

They have one of the cheapest owners in the league and going over the cap down there is not going to fly.

Stranger things have happened and In MY Opinion the Hornets are that desperate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ali Dont be so sure New Orleans wont give West away.  </p>
<p>They tried to give Tyson &#8220;Turf Toe&#8221; Chandler away but he couldnt pass a physical.  Like I said West is 29 and the Hornets are projected to owe a 7 million dollar luxury tax.  </p>
<p>They have one of the cheapest owners in the league and going over the cap down there is not going to fly.</p>
<p>Stranger things have happened and In MY Opinion the Hornets are that desperate!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll take David West if he's a secondary acquisition. Not if he's the big splash this summer.

All I know is that the Pistons need a SF not names Tayshaun Prince. That is all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll take David West if he&#8217;s a secondary acquisition. Not if he&#8217;s the big splash this summer.</p>
<p>All I know is that the Pistons need a SF not names Tayshaun Prince. That is all.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali Hassani</title>
		<link>http://www.pistonscast.com/blog/2009/04/26/top-listener-comment-ryan-aka-young-rrrrrrrrr/comment-page-1/#comment-2165</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali Hassani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah but you won't get West free, he's a great fit with Chris Paul and I don't think the Hornets are that desperate yet.  Realisticly the only feasible options towards getting a star big man either require somehow getting Bosh via trade or FA next year or taking a chance on Boozer.  Just about every other team that's got a star big has enough money to hold onto them and would never give them away cheap.


How about Troy Murphy?  He's like a younger version of Sheed with much better rebounding numbers.  Indiana already has Roy Hibbert and he looks to be a star defensive center, so that makes Hibbert expendable.  I'm not sure what the Pacers would want in return, but they can't be doing much better than the rest of the league financially and even the lakers did a salary dump this year.

Also I'm sure the wizards would love to get Jamison off their hands if they get Griffin.  The only major problem there is that Jamison is already 32, so there's no telling what he will still be able to do next year.

Also another option could be available if Memo opts out of his contract, albeit I'm not sure he would want to come back to Detroit with the nature of his exit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah but you won&#8217;t get West free, he&#8217;s a great fit with Chris Paul and I don&#8217;t think the Hornets are that desperate yet.  Realisticly the only feasible options towards getting a star big man either require somehow getting Bosh via trade or FA next year or taking a chance on Boozer.  Just about every other team that&#8217;s got a star big has enough money to hold onto them and would never give them away cheap.</p>
<p>How about Troy Murphy?  He&#8217;s like a younger version of Sheed with much better rebounding numbers.  Indiana already has Roy Hibbert and he looks to be a star defensive center, so that makes Hibbert expendable.  I&#8217;m not sure what the Pacers would want in return, but they can&#8217;t be doing much better than the rest of the league financially and even the lakers did a salary dump this year.</p>
<p>Also I&#8217;m sure the wizards would love to get Jamison off their hands if they get Griffin.  The only major problem there is that Jamison is already 32, so there&#8217;s no telling what he will still be able to do next year.</p>
<p>Also another option could be available if Memo opts out of his contract, albeit I&#8217;m not sure he would want to come back to Detroit with the nature of his exit.</p>
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		<title>By: John W. Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W. Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TAD David West. Well...1st thing he is 29 so thats fairly old.  Other than that I dont know.  If we can get David West for free like Camby to the Clippers I guess I would take him...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TAD David West. Well&#8230;1st thing he is 29 so thats fairly old.  Other than that I dont know.  If we can get David West for free like Camby to the Clippers I guess I would take him&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TADOne</title>
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		<dc:creator>TADOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new rumor i've heard has the Hornets willing to give David West up in a trade. While I like West, I feel as though he is a byproduct of playing with Chris Paul. Now, i'm not saying West isn't good or wouldn't be good w/o Paul, but he isn't an All Star if Paul isn't his PG. Thoughts?

Also, here is something that has been bothering me: the Rip Hamilton re-up at the beginning of the season. I feel as though Rip was one of the players who gave up on the season once he realized the Pistons were no longer serious contenders. Because of this, i'd be willing to look at moving him; however, when he signed his new contract he became virtually untradeable. No one wants to pay $11+ mil for a player that can only thrive on a team that runs him off multiple screens. He is now an albatross contract, IMO.

Just think, if we never re-signed Rip to that new deal, he would be great trade bait with only one year remaining on his deal. Ugh, hindsight....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new rumor i&#8217;ve heard has the Hornets willing to give David West up in a trade. While I like West, I feel as though he is a byproduct of playing with Chris Paul. Now, i&#8217;m not saying West isn&#8217;t good or wouldn&#8217;t be good w/o Paul, but he isn&#8217;t an All Star if Paul isn&#8217;t his PG. Thoughts?</p>
<p>Also, here is something that has been bothering me: the Rip Hamilton re-up at the beginning of the season. I feel as though Rip was one of the players who gave up on the season once he realized the Pistons were no longer serious contenders. Because of this, i&#8217;d be willing to look at moving him; however, when he signed his new contract he became virtually untradeable. No one wants to pay $11+ mil for a player that can only thrive on a team that runs him off multiple screens. He is now an albatross contract, IMO.</p>
<p>Just think, if we never re-signed Rip to that new deal, he would be great trade bait with only one year remaining on his deal. Ugh, hindsight&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali Hassani</title>
		<link>http://www.pistonscast.com/blog/2009/04/26/top-listener-comment-ryan-aka-young-rrrrrrrrr/comment-page-1/#comment-2159</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali Hassani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Stephen A. Smith, we gotta PUT EM IN.  He needs the ball in his hands to dominate.  Besides with his strength, speed and height advantage given 2 years it would be a waste of time to go groom another pg.

I think that MC can do a decent the job if Dumars fields the right vets.  There's no way you see Sheed back so no worries there.  And I doubt you'll see Tay back either.  So considering we'll have 3, possibly 4 new starters next year it can be like a fresh start.  And my reasoning here is that Vinnie Del Negro looked like an awful coach at the start of the season, and yet look at how good their team became when they got Brad Miller and John Salmons.  Or look at how bad people thought Doc Rivers was until he got Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen.

I think that we did not get to see what Michael Curry had drawn up earlier over the summer in his defensive rotations and offensive sets because of the Chauncey Trade.  Granted we also know he does not have the experience for a good playoff coach yet because he could not make good in game adjustments - but that should come with time.


As Artest, would love to have him but you know there's absolutely no shot of that happening right?  And Grant Hill would be great but he said its either Pheonix or retirement (and he's too valuable to Pheonix anyways, he and Steve Nash are the untouchables there).  Odom isn't a small forward, he can play the position but he lacks the lateral quickness to play it effectively for 40 minutes a game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Stephen A. Smith, we gotta PUT EM IN.  He needs the ball in his hands to dominate.  Besides with his strength, speed and height advantage given 2 years it would be a waste of time to go groom another pg.</p>
<p>I think that MC can do a decent the job if Dumars fields the right vets.  There&#8217;s no way you see Sheed back so no worries there.  And I doubt you&#8217;ll see Tay back either.  So considering we&#8217;ll have 3, possibly 4 new starters next year it can be like a fresh start.  And my reasoning here is that Vinnie Del Negro looked like an awful coach at the start of the season, and yet look at how good their team became when they got Brad Miller and John Salmons.  Or look at how bad people thought Doc Rivers was until he got Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen.</p>
<p>I think that we did not get to see what Michael Curry had drawn up earlier over the summer in his defensive rotations and offensive sets because of the Chauncey Trade.  Granted we also know he does not have the experience for a good playoff coach yet because he could not make good in game adjustments - but that should come with time.</p>
<p>As Artest, would love to have him but you know there&#8217;s absolutely no shot of that happening right?  And Grant Hill would be great but he said its either Pheonix or retirement (and he&#8217;s too valuable to Pheonix anyways, he and Steve Nash are the untouchables there).  Odom isn&#8217;t a small forward, he can play the position but he lacks the lateral quickness to play it effectively for 40 minutes a game.</p>
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		<title>By: Deven aka (Pimp Scwalla)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deven aka (Pimp Scwalla)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven't heard anyone address the coaching situation. Can MC do the job? What kind of players will compliment his coaching style(What ever the hell that style is)? When Flip took over, he inherited a pretty good team, and was able to dominate on the offensive end of the ball, but he lacked the ability to get the most out of his players on the defensive end.  It doesn’t matter who you bring over, if you don’t have someone to coach them, we’re still screwed.  

As far as players go, the only person that really stands out to me is Chris Bosh.  I like Boozer because of his inside game and the ability to rebound, but I don’t think he’s is the kind of guy that you could build a team around.  Chris Bosh has proven that he can do just that and he’s 3 years younger. 

I’m sorry but I see absolutely nothing in Rodney Stuckey’s game that says he would be better in the two guard position. Anytime you get 6'5’ 205lbs 22 year old that is fast and can handle like that, you gottta, “ PUT EM IN”.  Seriously, we will see Stuck excel when we first, come with a fresh identity. The Pistons are playing soft and every team in the league knows it. Second, determine what style of play best fits him.  Right now he’s playing like his mentor Chauncey Billups with shades of the real Rodney peeking out every once in awhile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t heard anyone address the coaching situation. Can MC do the job? What kind of players will compliment his coaching style(What ever the hell that style is)? When Flip took over, he inherited a pretty good team, and was able to dominate on the offensive end of the ball, but he lacked the ability to get the most out of his players on the defensive end.  It doesn’t matter who you bring over, if you don’t have someone to coach them, we’re still screwed.  </p>
<p>As far as players go, the only person that really stands out to me is Chris Bosh.  I like Boozer because of his inside game and the ability to rebound, but I don’t think he’s is the kind of guy that you could build a team around.  Chris Bosh has proven that he can do just that and he’s 3 years younger. </p>
<p>I’m sorry but I see absolutely nothing in Rodney Stuckey’s game that says he would be better in the two guard position. Anytime you get 6&#8242;5’ 205lbs 22 year old that is fast and can handle like that, you gottta, “ PUT EM IN”.  Seriously, we will see Stuck excel when we first, come with a fresh identity. The Pistons are playing soft and every team in the league knows it. Second, determine what style of play best fits him.  Right now he’s playing like his mentor Chauncey Billups with shades of the real Rodney peeking out every once in awhile.</p>
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		<title>By: John W. Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W. Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 05:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Steve Lets start the bring back Grant Hill movement.  I tried to start it last year in the Amare trade but if we support the movement, it just might happen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Steve Lets start the bring back Grant Hill movement.  I tried to start it last year in the Amare trade but if we support the movement, it just might happen!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 04:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops, revision: 

Starters: Stuckey, Gordon, Artest or Odom, Bosh, Kwame

Bench: Bynum, Afflalo, Kapano, Grant Hill, Maxiell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops, revision: </p>
<p>Starters: Stuckey, Gordon, Artest or Odom, Bosh, Kwame</p>
<p>Bench: Bynum, Afflalo, Kapano, Grant Hill, Maxiell</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 04:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More Pistons trades: Tay, Rip for Bosh, Kapano; (http://bit.ly/7Crid). Sign Ben Gordon, Ron Artest (or Lamar Odom), &#38; Grant Hill.

Starters: Stuckey, Gordon, Artest/Odom, Bosh, Kwame

Bench: Bynum, Afflalo, Grant Hill, Maxiell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More Pistons trades: Tay, Rip for Bosh, Kapano; (http://bit.ly/7Crid). Sign Ben Gordon, Ron Artest (or Lamar Odom), &amp; Grant Hill.</p>
<p>Starters: Stuckey, Gordon, Artest/Odom, Bosh, Kwame</p>
<p>Bench: Bynum, Afflalo, Grant Hill, Maxiell</p>
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		<title>By: Ali Hassani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ali Hassani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>note that they did in fact call a tech for Dwight's elbow.

However I totally agree that the NBA has its favorites, and Boston is clearly one of them.  Think of back in the playoffs when KG got off the bench in that brawl and even pushed aside a ref but was not suspended.  The Celts would have lost the series had he been suspended, but Lamar Odom and Amare Stoudemire are suspended for just standing up off the bench.  And yes that should have been a flagrant 2 on the Rondo, he clearly went for the head and not the ball.

But I don't think you should give up on the Bulls just yet, don't forget they get a lot of calls (especially Rose and Gordon).  Eitherway it doesn't matter, we know that the finals is going to come down to Kobe vs LeBron.  A Celts Lakers rematch just does not sound as interesting to the general public, so ratings would go down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>note that they did in fact call a tech for Dwight&#8217;s elbow.</p>
<p>However I totally agree that the NBA has its favorites, and Boston is clearly one of them.  Think of back in the playoffs when KG got off the bench in that brawl and even pushed aside a ref but was not suspended.  The Celts would have lost the series had he been suspended, but Lamar Odom and Amare Stoudemire are suspended for just standing up off the bench.  And yes that should have been a flagrant 2 on the Rondo, he clearly went for the head and not the ball.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t think you should give up on the Bulls just yet, don&#8217;t forget they get a lot of calls (especially Rose and Gordon).  Eitherway it doesn&#8217;t matter, we know that the finals is going to come down to Kobe vs LeBron.  A Celts Lakers rematch just does not sound as interesting to the general public, so ratings would go down.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last nite's actions just further proves that the NBA is a set up organization. They slipped up when Dwight was not called for the elbow and Rondo was not called for the flagerant foul. We know now who's gonna win those two series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last nite&#8217;s actions just further proves that the NBA is a set up organization. They slipped up when Dwight was not called for the elbow and Rondo was not called for the flagerant foul. We know now who&#8217;s gonna win those two series.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few thoughts:

1) Yes, I defintly agree that Stuckey doesn't get the foul calls. Hopefully that will come with time.

2) The Pistons played at the slowest pace in the entire NBA, so that obviously has an effect on Stuckey's (somewhat) low assist numbers (4.9 a game). 

3) Also, that Stuckey had to share the ball w/ Allen Iverson for most of the season. That would make anyone's assists numbers drop.

4) The Pistons (like Ali said), had no post presence this season. Sheed &#38; Dyess are jump shooting bigs. Put a Boozer or a Bosh down low &#38; Stuckey is going to rack up the assists.

Curry talked about playing faster next year. So I can see Stuckey averaging 17-7-4 next season easily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few thoughts:</p>
<p>1) Yes, I defintly agree that Stuckey doesn&#8217;t get the foul calls. Hopefully that will come with time.</p>
<p>2) The Pistons played at the slowest pace in the entire NBA, so that obviously has an effect on Stuckey&#8217;s (somewhat) low assist numbers (4.9 a game). </p>
<p>3) Also, that Stuckey had to share the ball w/ Allen Iverson for most of the season. That would make anyone&#8217;s assists numbers drop.</p>
<p>4) The Pistons (like Ali said), had no post presence this season. Sheed &amp; Dyess are jump shooting bigs. Put a Boozer or a Bosh down low &amp; Stuckey is going to rack up the assists.</p>
<p>Curry talked about playing faster next year. So I can see Stuckey averaging 17-7-4 next season easily.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali Hassani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ali Hassani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also don't forget John, Stuckey never gets any foul calls.  Its rediculous how much he gets wacked around in the paint only to get nothing in return.

I wouldn't mind Jefferson, he's a great shooter, in fact he reminds a lot of Chauncey in their style of play and build.  Only gripe is that williams is much younger, so that means a longer title run.

Ok so I've got it.  Best lineup evAr.  Resign Sheed for 6 year $24 mil; trade Amir, Kwame, Maxiell and Sharpe for Verajo; sell Stuckey's contract on ebay; used money to get Derek Fisher but place him at center; hire Isaiah Thomas as the GM in order to play Dumars at the 2 and lastly have Fabio run the point.  See perfect lineup, guarantees more than 38 wins anyways (you said you were open to anything :p)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also don&#8217;t forget John, Stuckey never gets any foul calls.  Its rediculous how much he gets wacked around in the paint only to get nothing in return.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t mind Jefferson, he&#8217;s a great shooter, in fact he reminds a lot of Chauncey in their style of play and build.  Only gripe is that williams is much younger, so that means a longer title run.</p>
<p>Ok so I&#8217;ve got it.  Best lineup evAr.  Resign Sheed for 6 year $24 mil; trade Amir, Kwame, Maxiell and Sharpe for Verajo; sell Stuckey&#8217;s contract on ebay; used money to get Derek Fisher but place him at center; hire Isaiah Thomas as the GM in order to play Dumars at the 2 and lastly have Fabio run the point.  See perfect lineup, guarantees more than 38 wins anyways (you said you were open to anything :p)</p>
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		<title>By: Ali Hassani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ali Hassani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True but Stuckey is no where as good as finishing as Wade is - not yet anyways, he had a big improvement over last year and hopefully that second jump will come over the summer - and his offense was shut down in that 8 game losing streak because of that.  He needs to dunk more, that'll cause a good number of people to get out of his way, just think of when Tony Parker ran away from LeBron.

So adding Marvin Williams or Turkoglu will give the element of a shooting Wing, but then who do you expect to slide in at point?  Ty Lawson was a great scorer but an average distributor.  And once again I doubt the Bucks will give up Sessions very easily.

To be honest I think Rodney was a very good distributor at the end of the season, getting in the paint and kicking it out - people just missed a bunch of wide open shots.  IMO, you'll see much higher assist numbers next when they put better shooters around him and give him a consistent post player.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True but Stuckey is no where as good as finishing as Wade is - not yet anyways, he had a big improvement over last year and hopefully that second jump will come over the summer - and his offense was shut down in that 8 game losing streak because of that.  He needs to dunk more, that&#8217;ll cause a good number of people to get out of his way, just think of when Tony Parker ran away from LeBron.</p>
<p>So adding Marvin Williams or Turkoglu will give the element of a shooting Wing, but then who do you expect to slide in at point?  Ty Lawson was a great scorer but an average distributor.  And once again I doubt the Bucks will give up Sessions very easily.</p>
<p>To be honest I think Rodney was a very good distributor at the end of the season, getting in the paint and kicking it out - people just missed a bunch of wide open shots.  IMO, you&#8217;ll see much higher assist numbers next when they put better shooters around him and give him a consistent post player.</p>
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		<title>By: TADOne</title>
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		<dc:creator>TADOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get Sessions as our PG, move Stuckey to the 2, sign Marvin Williams as our SF (he CAN shoot 3's), trade Tay and Amir for Bosh, and keep Kwame as our 5 until an adequate replacement comes along. Look at trade options for Rip as well. Hell, i'm pretty much open to anything at this point. I'm wondering if Richard Jefferson would welcome a new address? That would free the Bucks up from his contract. If i'm Dumars, i'm kicking tires all around the league.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get Sessions as our PG, move Stuckey to the 2, sign Marvin Williams as our SF (he CAN shoot 3&#8217;s), trade Tay and Amir for Bosh, and keep Kwame as our 5 until an adequate replacement comes along. Look at trade options for Rip as well. Hell, i&#8217;m pretty much open to anything at this point. I&#8217;m wondering if Richard Jefferson would welcome a new address? That would free the Bucks up from his contract. If i&#8217;m Dumars, i&#8217;m kicking tires all around the league.</p>
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		<title>By: John W. Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W. Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ali... How effective is D Wade? I feel like Stuckey is lite version of D-Wade.
&lt;strong&gt;
I would rather take it to the HOOP 100 times and get fouled than take a slightly open 3 point shot.&lt;/strong&gt;

Also, don't believe everything Joe D says. 

We all know we need to make some big moves.  

All I'm saying is dont rule anything out because I'm sure Joe D is looking at all options.

Who knows Ali, our 3 point shooter might be at the SF position.

Two Penetrators like Sessions and Stuckey and a shooting Wing player and you are back in business.

You know NBA defenders are lazy and will let Sessions and Stuckey have there way in the lane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ali&#8230; How effective is D Wade? I feel like Stuckey is lite version of D-Wade.<br />
<strong><br />
I would rather take it to the HOOP 100 times and get fouled than take a slightly open 3 point shot.</strong></p>
<p>Also, don&#8217;t believe everything Joe D says. </p>
<p>We all know we need to make some big moves.  </p>
<p>All I&#8217;m saying is dont rule anything out because I&#8217;m sure Joe D is looking at all options.</p>
<p>Who knows Ali, our 3 point shooter might be at the SF position.</p>
<p>Two Penetrators like Sessions and Stuckey and a shooting Wing player and you are back in business.</p>
<p>You know NBA defenders are lazy and will let Sessions and Stuckey have there way in the lane.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali Hassani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ali Hassani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, but Dumars has already said that Stuckey is our PG of the future.  Besides he's got no 3 point shot, so that wouldn't make him an effective shooting guard because defenses will just sit back and clog the lane, preventing him and said point guard from squirming their way in like Rondo or even overpowering others like Wade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, but Dumars has already said that Stuckey is our PG of the future.  Besides he&#8217;s got no 3 point shot, so that wouldn&#8217;t make him an effective shooting guard because defenses will just sit back and clog the lane, preventing him and said point guard from squirming their way in like Rondo or even overpowering others like Wade.</p>
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		<title>By: John W. Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W. Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ali Don't rule out moving to Stuckey to the 2 and getting a value PG or even drafting Jonny Flynn or Ty Lawson at Number 15.

I believe that Stuckey can play the Point, even excel at it but in my heart I think he just wants to score and not worry about setting his teammates up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ali Don&#8217;t rule out moving to Stuckey to the 2 and getting a value PG or even drafting Jonny Flynn or Ty Lawson at Number 15.</p>
<p>I believe that Stuckey can play the Point, even excel at it but in my heart I think he just wants to score and not worry about setting his teammates up.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali Hassani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ali Hassani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gordon can also drive well, kick out or finish.  And don't forget that when Allen is off, he's way off.  He's already had an awful game this series and couldn't find his shot at all until the conference finals last year.  In addition he was a mediocre defender at best before he went to Boston, even AI was twice the defender coming out of Detroit (meaning you can coach defense, the hard part is getting players to commit).  

However I do realize that Gordon's biggest shortcoming is his height.  He's stronger than Rip, but other guys can shoot over him like they did to Rip at SF.  As far as I know beyond Turkoglu there's no other good 3 point shooter as a free agent this year.

IMO there's no point in drafting a guard unless if its Wayne ellington - best outside shooter in the late rounds - because I guarantee you Afflalo will surpass Rip by the time Rip's contract expires.  Judging by the magnitude of growth Afflalo had just last summer, I think he can be a solid 16-20 pt with 40% from 3.  However that does not fix the immediate need.  

I wish the Pistons would have bought Rudy Fernandez's contract last summer, Pheonix sold it for something like $2 mil in cash considerations.  There is a shot at getting Jason Richardson, no defense but he's really strong, athletic and a consistent 3 point shooter.  Michael Redd should be on the market but he's just as old as Rip and is coming off a bad injury.  Tmac lol?

Take a look at the SG stats at ESPN, and tell me who you see on the list that will be easily available and also has a better resume than Ben Gordon for a similar price.  There's a lot of good young guys, such as Courtney Lee, but I highly doubt the Pistons will be able to pry them away in this economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gordon can also drive well, kick out or finish.  And don&#8217;t forget that when Allen is off, he&#8217;s way off.  He&#8217;s already had an awful game this series and couldn&#8217;t find his shot at all until the conference finals last year.  In addition he was a mediocre defender at best before he went to Boston, even AI was twice the defender coming out of Detroit (meaning you can coach defense, the hard part is getting players to commit).  </p>
<p>However I do realize that Gordon&#8217;s biggest shortcoming is his height.  He&#8217;s stronger than Rip, but other guys can shoot over him like they did to Rip at SF.  As far as I know beyond Turkoglu there&#8217;s no other good 3 point shooter as a free agent this year.</p>
<p>IMO there&#8217;s no point in drafting a guard unless if its Wayne ellington - best outside shooter in the late rounds - because I guarantee you Afflalo will surpass Rip by the time Rip&#8217;s contract expires.  Judging by the magnitude of growth Afflalo had just last summer, I think he can be a solid 16-20 pt with 40% from 3.  However that does not fix the immediate need.  </p>
<p>I wish the Pistons would have bought Rudy Fernandez&#8217;s contract last summer, Pheonix sold it for something like $2 mil in cash considerations.  There is a shot at getting Jason Richardson, no defense but he&#8217;s really strong, athletic and a consistent 3 point shooter.  Michael Redd should be on the market but he&#8217;s just as old as Rip and is coming off a bad injury.  Tmac lol?</p>
<p>Take a look at the SG stats at ESPN, and tell me who you see on the list that will be easily available and also has a better resume than Ben Gordon for a similar price.  There&#8217;s a lot of good young guys, such as Courtney Lee, but I highly doubt the Pistons will be able to pry them away in this economy.</p>
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		<title>By: John W. Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W. Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TADOne Im with you on Ramon Sessions. He is one of my fav players for Fantasy Basketball. He racks up assists... my only problem with him is the lack of a 3-point shot. 

This could be good tho because it forces him to penetrate which is something we sorely lack.

I am for Sessions at any decent price like 5-8 million dollars.

I like a team that starts Sessions, Stuckey and Afflalo.  Give me a Big or two and Im good!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TADOne Im with you on Ramon Sessions. He is one of my fav players for Fantasy Basketball. He racks up assists&#8230; my only problem with him is the lack of a 3-point shot. </p>
<p>This could be good tho because it forces him to penetrate which is something we sorely lack.</p>
<p>I am for Sessions at any decent price like 5-8 million dollars.</p>
<p>I like a team that starts Sessions, Stuckey and Afflalo.  Give me a Big or two and Im good!</p>
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		<title>By: TADOne</title>
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		<dc:creator>TADOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear you Ali. However, Gordon turned down $10 mil a year from the Bulls. As good as a 3 point shooter he may be, i'm not paying an undersized 2 guard who does little else. The Ray Allen comparison is bad. Allen can play defense, rebound, drive-and-kick, drive-and-finish, is a leader, and is the best 3 point shooter in the game. When Allen was Gordon's age, he was a perennial All Star, not a streaky off the bench shooter. So again, thanks, but no thanks.

As for Sessions, I think that someone could get Ramon for the right price. Milwaukee thinks so highly of Sessions that Luke Ridnour starts over him. It was only after Ridnour got hurt that Ramon was handed the starting role. Milwaukee as a team is bleeding money. They cannot afford to pay the luxury tax on a team that isn't in the playoffs. They are already paying Bogut, Redd, Jefferson, and Villanueva. Someone is going to be sacrificed. 

We are in agreement on Marvin Williams, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you Ali. However, Gordon turned down $10 mil a year from the Bulls. As good as a 3 point shooter he may be, i&#8217;m not paying an undersized 2 guard who does little else. The Ray Allen comparison is bad. Allen can play defense, rebound, drive-and-kick, drive-and-finish, is a leader, and is the best 3 point shooter in the game. When Allen was Gordon&#8217;s age, he was a perennial All Star, not a streaky off the bench shooter. So again, thanks, but no thanks.</p>
<p>As for Sessions, I think that someone could get Ramon for the right price. Milwaukee thinks so highly of Sessions that Luke Ridnour starts over him. It was only after Ridnour got hurt that Ramon was handed the starting role. Milwaukee as a team is bleeding money. They cannot afford to pay the luxury tax on a team that isn&#8217;t in the playoffs. They are already paying Bogut, Redd, Jefferson, and Villanueva. Someone is going to be sacrificed. </p>
<p>We are in agreement on Marvin Williams, however.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali Hassani</title>
		<link>http://www.pistonscast.com/blog/2009/04/26/top-listener-comment-ryan-aka-young-rrrrrrrrr/comment-page-1/#comment-2134</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali Hassani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By that same definition Ray Allen is a worthless streaky shooter.  Look if you've got a good post game and a slasher, then you need a 3 point threat to spread the floor.  Otherwise defenses will just clog the lane like they did against Stuckey and AI in that 8 game losing streak.

I'm fine if you can point out a better all around 3 point shooter that's available right now, but until then Ben Gordon is our best bet.  

As for Ramon Sessions, I highly doubt the Bucks will give him up very easily, even if that means paying a lot of luxury taxes.  When Chauncey was a free agent no one wanted him because he hadn't quite put it together as a point guard.  However everyone knows that Sessions is very capable of both scoring and setting up others so I doubt you'll be able to get him easily.  Plus his contract makes him even more valuable to the Bucks.

As for Marvin Williams, that's exactly what I'm saying.  Sign him and trade Tay+(1 big) for Bosh.  I don't see why Toronto would pass up on that, they've got a center, a PF, a shooting guard and PG, but no small forward and need better defense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By that same definition Ray Allen is a worthless streaky shooter.  Look if you&#8217;ve got a good post game and a slasher, then you need a 3 point threat to spread the floor.  Otherwise defenses will just clog the lane like they did against Stuckey and AI in that 8 game losing streak.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m fine if you can point out a better all around 3 point shooter that&#8217;s available right now, but until then Ben Gordon is our best bet.  </p>
<p>As for Ramon Sessions, I highly doubt the Bucks will give him up very easily, even if that means paying a lot of luxury taxes.  When Chauncey was a free agent no one wanted him because he hadn&#8217;t quite put it together as a point guard.  However everyone knows that Sessions is very capable of both scoring and setting up others so I doubt you&#8217;ll be able to get him easily.  Plus his contract makes him even more valuable to the Bucks.</p>
<p>As for Marvin Williams, that&#8217;s exactly what I&#8217;m saying.  Sign him and trade Tay+(1 big) for Bosh.  I don&#8217;t see why Toronto would pass up on that, they&#8217;ve got a center, a PF, a shooting guard and PG, but no small forward and need better defense.</p>
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		<title>By: TADOne</title>
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		<dc:creator>TADOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PLEASE SAY NO TO BEN GORDON! I'm sorry, Gordon is not that good. Other than streaky scoring, Gordon is useless. Please, please, watch him for a full game. He is not worth the $10+ mil he wants. No thank you.

As for the cash-strapped Bucks, I do like Ramon Sessions. A lot. He is very underrated and he may be another Billups, meaning he is someone who people slept on or overlooked. Same with Marvin Williams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PLEASE SAY NO TO BEN GORDON! I&#8217;m sorry, Gordon is not that good. Other than streaky scoring, Gordon is useless. Please, please, watch him for a full game. He is not worth the $10+ mil he wants. No thank you.</p>
<p>As for the cash-strapped Bucks, I do like Ramon Sessions. A lot. He is very underrated and he may be another Billups, meaning he is someone who people slept on or overlooked. Same with Marvin Williams.</p>
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		<title>By: Darian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>espn article said how they were excited they dont have to watch the pistons and spurs slow ball him to death until june!! we need sum HUGE CHANGES THIS YEAR! start out fresh!! i think we need to get sheed and tay or rip.. NOT BOTH! out of here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>espn article said how they were excited they dont have to watch the pistons and spurs slow ball him to death until june!! we need sum HUGE CHANGES THIS YEAR! start out fresh!! i think we need to get sheed and tay or rip.. NOT BOTH! out of here!</p>
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		<title>By: Ali Hassani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ali Hassani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think you could sign Ben gordon and hold onto Hamilton, the cap is decreasing this summer so one of them would have to go.  Another possibility is sign Gordon but trade Rip.  Gordon is shorter than Rip, but don't forget he is also much stronger and is a better outside shooter, something we need to free up the lane for Stuckey.  I liken his game to that of Ray Allen, who Rip models his game off of if you didn't know.

As for Bogut, I'd say that's a toss up between him and Chandler, since Chandler is the better rebounder but Bogut has a better offensive game.  

However there is a major risk with Bogut in that he's coming off a major back injury while Chandler has turf toe.  Even if Chandler is affected by that toe, it won't bother him nearly to the degree a bad back would.  Besides the Bucks have no intention of getting rid of him for free as they're in no where near the financial situation the Hornets are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you could sign Ben gordon and hold onto Hamilton, the cap is decreasing this summer so one of them would have to go.  Another possibility is sign Gordon but trade Rip.  Gordon is shorter than Rip, but don&#8217;t forget he is also much stronger and is a better outside shooter, something we need to free up the lane for Stuckey.  I liken his game to that of Ray Allen, who Rip models his game off of if you didn&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>As for Bogut, I&#8217;d say that&#8217;s a toss up between him and Chandler, since Chandler is the better rebounder but Bogut has a better offensive game.  </p>
<p>However there is a major risk with Bogut in that he&#8217;s coming off a major back injury while Chandler has turf toe.  Even if Chandler is affected by that toe, it won&#8217;t bother him nearly to the degree a bad back would.  Besides the Bucks have no intention of getting rid of him for free as they&#8217;re in no where near the financial situation the Hornets are.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve McLuckie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve McLuckie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 04:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No excuses - the Pistons aren't very good. McDyess is great, but should go elsewhere to get his ring.  Keep Stuckey, Afflalo, Bynam, and Maxiell.  I like Tay and Rip, but trade them if the deal is right.  Package the rest in a trade if possible.  Draft?  LIving in Columbia, MO I've watched DeMarre Carroll at Mizzou.  Use a 2nd round pick to get him.  At 6'8", 225 he can take Amir's place and actually bring energy and solid play off the bench.  Careful on the free agent market - the big guys are available in 2010 so save some cap space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No excuses - the Pistons aren&#8217;t very good. McDyess is great, but should go elsewhere to get his ring.  Keep Stuckey, Afflalo, Bynam, and Maxiell.  I like Tay and Rip, but trade them if the deal is right.  Package the rest in a trade if possible.  Draft?  LIving in Columbia, MO I&#8217;ve watched DeMarre Carroll at Mizzou.  Use a 2nd round pick to get him.  At 6&#8242;8&#8243;, 225 he can take Amir&#8217;s place and actually bring energy and solid play off the bench.  Careful on the free agent market - the big guys are available in 2010 so save some cap space.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont know if yall already knew this but the Raptors are actually interested in Tay. Check this out:

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/58730/20090423/raptors_interested_in_prince/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont know if yall already knew this but the Raptors are actually interested in Tay. Check this out:</p>
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