They wanted Andris Beidrins (a guy I would love to have myself, he’s a very promising center), 2 quality rotation players and Stephen Curry. We just don’t have that to offer.

And thank you for finally acknowledging than Pryzbilla is a decent player. I’m telling you, I don’t just look on rosters trying to find who teams want to give away.

Now Ali if we get Boozer, then you get your Center. Pryz is actually decent… except at free throws!

How about that compromise?

Was Ben Wallace for Shaq even. No.

You dont get Superstars in this league because of plausible trades anymore.

When another team is unhappy, you strike while the Iron is hot. Gasol trade, Garnett trade, Vince Carter trade.

No trade for a superstar is ever truly even.

So what you do is show a commitment to that Superstar player, show them you are going to do everything it takes to compete for a championship and you make that trade for a Max Contract Player!

PS. Boston did not win because of Kendrick Perkins. That was all KG, Ray Allen and Paul Pierce. Until we get a trio of All Star/Hall of Famers, we cant just plug in a defensive center and expect to win.

Ben Wallace was a once a generation player. Thats why Im saying we need to get that Hybrid big man to compete for a championship.

We cant settle for mediocre players just because it makes sense.

I think at the end of the day four good players is better than just getting Bosh. That would be too much pressure to put one player.

Beating Lebron is going to take a team effort !!

Bosh isn’t a guy that could lead his team by himself. He’s very consistent, but he’s peaked, not to mention look at Toronto’s record. True superstars like Duncan, LeBron or Wade have always produced playoff teams. He’s very good, but you need to place another guy with him to win.

Amare on the other hand is a real number 1, but you have to play him with a real defensive center. He’s a good help side shot blocker, but bad one on one.

Either way John, its impossible to get those guys without the proper cap space or pieces to trade. Please explain how you plan to get those guys when Pheonix wanted a young promising center, 2 other rotation pieces and Stephen Curry. If you trade for Przybilla to get $8 mil in cap space, you get a serviceable defensive center and can get an all star in a salary dump. Now you actually have some pieces to trade.

Be realistic guys. Honestly, I’m getting tired of being told my plans are sucky when they are the only ones that actually are doable in the foreseeable future. Out of the over 100 comments, I’m the only person that actually contributed plausible scenarios. Not one other person said hey, I don’t like these guys, but I’ve done my research and I think player XX would work better and here’s how you get him.

Either we get a Ben Wallace type of defender (which we are not)

or we need Bosh or Amare.

Thats it.

We have a championship culture and we arent going to win another title with Chandler, Okafor, Dalembert, Pryz or whoever else works “cap wise”.

Przybilla converts a HIGHER PERCENTAGE THAN CHANDLER from close range and dunks. Besides, almost all of Chandler’s points come from lob passes from Chris Paul, that’s been well documented. Look at Chandler’s numbers before he had CP3, he was between 5 to 8 ppg each year. Przybilla actually has a post game and uses it on 50% of his possessions, meaning he’ll be effective to a certain degree on all teams.

Yes Przybilla is not a great scorer, but you aren’t paying for one. You have $8 mil in cap space left over for a player who puts up better numbers than Chandler. Use that money in a salary dump and you’ve got an all star on your hands. And either way, how do you expect to get a true offensive center anyways? Teams don’t just give those guys away for free.

Gordon was an important player on his team, but look closer at his numbers. Chicago allowed 5 more points per 100 possessions with Gordon on the floor compared to off. His opponents averaged well above 50% eFG. That’s HUGE. Many times when Gordon went for big numbers, his opponent also put up huge numbers. Ben Gordon goes for 33, Joe Johnson has a career high 41. BG goes for 43, Wade goes for 48. You just can’t win in the playoffs that way.

Look guys, I enjoy posting up ideas, and I like to have positive criticism. But seriously, I do spend a lot of time looking at the statistics before I bring up ideas. I would like you guys to be more considerate of that.

I’m not much into the long discussions about every players worth.

We know what they can do, we watch them, we love (or hate) them.

I’m happy with the trades. Just wondering who’s going to be our center. Kwame does fine, not much hustle but he makes a solid back-up and can play the starting minutes until we hopefully find someone better.

All I want to say at this point is that I’m looking forward to this upcoming season and what it brings.

I don’t expect a title for a number of years, not until Dumars starts drafting better and gets the pieces for a major trade. But until then, you try to make the best roster you can.

I personally feel the team would be better off with two productive bigs than Tayshaun, but that’s just me. If you can find another trade that works for both teams that includes a better player, I’m all for it.

That’s why I like Przybilla, that gives you both a very productive center and a lot more flexibility this year or going into the 2010 free agency because he has an option, not guaranteed money after this year.

I personally would take Gortat over Bass because the team already has plenty of offense, but that’s just me.

I don’t see what you have against Przybilla, he’s more productive than Tashaun is on his own, let alone him and 2 other players. Give me one legit reason why you don’t like Przybilla that doesn’t include he’s erratic or that he’s not a star. His play has been very consistent and he’s the second best rebounder per minute in the league.

Currently at 95!

If you trade Tay for Przybilla (and perhaps a draft pick), with all other contracts and the cap decrease in consideration, the Pistons would have between $7-8 million in cap space.

With that money, you could sign a guy like Marvin Williams or Brandon Bass. Both are good shot blockers, and Williams is a lock down defender while Bass is another big to add to the rotation.

Richard, keep in mind that in all but 2 of his most productive years, Chandler played below 30 minutes a game. You don’t have to play 40 minutes a night to be considered an impact player, you just have to pllay with high intensity. So I’ll take the guy with the higher efficiency plus the cap space over an injured former all star.

Richard I do look beyond surface and I know there’s a reason why Dalembert doesn’t play 40 minutes a night. But at the same time you’ve still got Kwame Brown to fill 20 minutes. So from there you look at the guy with the most efficiency to fill in the other 25 minutes.

Ohh and if you’re going to insult me, do a little better than job than just reversing my own words.

-Ben Gordon