Posts tagged ‘Richard Hamilton’

Pistonscast Episode 76: Is Rip Hamilton really hurt?

by John - posted Wednesday, December 31st, 2008

What’s Going on World?

Is Rip really hurt?  That’s the question.  Check out Episode 76 for the Pistonscast theory on Rip’s possible phantom injury.  Also Chauncey Billups and the aforementioned  Richard Hamilton both make special appearances through a new segment called the “Pistons Phone Tap”.  Even with a 5 game winning streak, there is still a lot to talk about it.

1. Is Rip really hurt?

2. How do you like Amir in the starting lineup?

3. How many games with this current winning streak last?

4. Would you trade Rip? For Who?

Anything else you want to discuss, this is the place to do it!

Peace,

www.pistonscast.com

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Amir Johnson starting in place of (injured) Richard Hamilton

by John - posted Saturday, December 27th, 2008

What’s Going on World?

John W. Davis here.  I didn’t want this news to slip by you. (I know someone just saw the box score and said why did Amir start over Rip?)  Thanks for coming to Pistonscast.com for the scoop.

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VIA MLIVE:

Detroit Pistons guard Richard Hamilton will not play tonight due to a left groin injury. Pistons coach Michael Curry said Hamilton initially suffered the injury at Atlanta on Dec. 21, but re-aggravated it against Oklahoma City last night.

“I kind of came down and I didn’t really know what happened, but after the (Atlanta) game I really felt it,” Hamilton told reporters. “It was like a pull.”

It is unclear when Hamilton will return, but his status is being listed as day-to-day. His absence means Amir Johnson is back in the starting lineup, with Detroit’s backcourt now consisting of Rodney Stuckey and Allen Iverson.

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I WONDER IS AMIR STARTING IN PLACE OF RIP A TASTE OF THINGS TO COME?

Peace,

John W. Davis

www.pistonscast.com

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Pistonscast Episode 75: AI or Rip?

by John - posted Wednesday, December 24th, 2008

What’s Going on World?

How is my Pistonscast Posse doing. I hope you enjoyed the win against the Bulls because I surely did. Watching Stuckey destroy a great young player like Derrick Rose speaks volume to how good Rodney Stuckey really is.

If Derrick Rose is a young offensive minded J-Kidd the Rodney Stuckey might just be a smaller version of say… LEBRON JAMES!

Let me stop now before I get all excited.

Anyway, It’s very simple Episode 75 is here!

WHO ARE YOU SENDING TO THE BENCH?

1. AI.

2. RIP.

Tell us who and why?

Peace,

www.pistonscast.com

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Pistons vs. Nets: Tonight at 7:30pm

by John - posted Friday, November 7th, 2008

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What’s Going on World?

John W. Davis here.  The Pistons are on the road tonight against the Brooklyn-New Jersey Nets.  Tonight is definitely AI’s debut.  I’m looking forward to it.  Iverson completed his first PRAC-TICE on thursday.  The starting lineup is supposed to be Iverson, Rip, Tayshaun, Amir and Rasheed.  I’m not opposed to Iverson off the bench but I’m pretty sure that will never happen.

Coach Curry had this to say in the Detroit News about the Pistons starting lineup and where Stuckey stands on the starter’s learning curve.  “Stuckey is still learning,” Curry said. “He has a lot of talent, but he still has a ways to go. I’ve always said, if you don’t give young guys things and you make them earn it, they will keep it.  “If you give them something, you can take it away. He’s earning his keep, and he’s earning his time on the court.”

The Detroit Pistons are 4-0 and the Nets are coming in at 1-2.  Coach Mike Curry went deep into the rotation last game playing 11 B-ballers against the Raps, so look for at least 10 players to hit the floor (and score) in the IZOD Center in East Rutherford, New Jersey.  I expect a win against the Nets but you never know what will happen away from the Palace.

Check out this cool photo gallery of Iverson in his new Pistons duds.

*Also Rip misses Chauncey.

Peace,

John W. Davis

www.pistonscast.com

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Rip Hamilton signs a 3-year 34 mil extension!

by John - posted Monday, November 3rd, 2008

FROM ESPN:

The Detroit Pistons didn’t stop at making over their backcourt Monday.

In addition to acquiring Allen Iverson in a three-for-one trade with the Denver Nuggets, the Pistons agreed to a three-year extension with Richard Hamilton, a team source told ESPN.com’s Chad Ford.

The new contract is worth $34 million, with the first two years guaranteed. The third year is only a partial guarantee, the source told Ford.

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I’m excited!  Rip is a part of our future.  Maxiell is too.  Amir, check.  Stuckey is in there too.

Ha, Joe D is a genius!

Peace,

John W. Davis

P.S. Check out The Marcus Stout Blog: “From the D to the A(ustria)”

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Guest Blogger Prof. David Berri: The Misperceptions of Rip Hamilton

by John - posted Wednesday, October 8th, 2008

The Misperceptions of Rip Hamilton

A few days ago I received an e-mail from Daniel Petersen (a Wages of Wins Journal reader) alerting me to a story about Rip Hamilton in the Detroit News.

The story (Pistons’ Hamilton glad to start anew) - by Chris McCosky - begins as follows:

Nobody wanted a fresh start more than Richard Hamilton.

By almost every measure, 2007-08 was a down season. His point production was down. Though his shooting percentage was up, his overall offensive efficiency was down.

The article goes on to add…

“I was disappointed at the way Flip (Saunders) did things, that was the frustrating thing about it,” he (Rip Hamilton) said.

Hamilton didn’t want to get into specifics, but his major point of contention with Saunders was that he didn’t hold all players accountable for their actions.

“Players like to be challenged, and they want discipline, even if they fight at times,” coach Michael Curry said.

“Rip was frustrated because he didn’t feel that everybody was being held accountable. Our goal as a coaching staff this year is to do a better job holding everybody accountable every day.”

To summarize, this article makes three arguments:

  • Last season did not go so well for Rip.
  • Rip’s failure was because of Flip Saunders.
  • And Flip’s problem was that he didn’t challenge his players.

The Best of Rip

Let’s examine the first two contentions with some numbers (I will address the last issue at the end of the column). 

Here is what Rip Hamilton has done in terms of Wins Produced and WP48 [Wins Produced per 48 minutes] across his career:

2007-08: 6.6, 0.131 WP48

2006-07: 4.4, 0.076 WP48

2005-06: 3.6, 0.060 WP48

2004-05: 2.8, 0.046 WP48

2003-04: 4.8, 0.083 WP48

2002-03: 3.5, 0.063 WP48

2001-02: -0.8, -0.017 WP48

2000-01: -2.9, -0.055 WP48

1999-oo: -2.3, -0.082 WP48

Career: 19.6, 0.042

An average shooting guard (and an average player in general) posts a WP48 of 0.100.  When we look at Hamilton’s career we see that he has only been above average once.  And that one “good” season was last year. 

What made last season “good”?  To answer that question we need to turn to the individual stats.

Table One: The Career of Rip Hamilton

Table One reports what Hamilton did last season relative to an average shooting guard.   We see that relative to the average two-guard, Hamilton was an above average scorer last season (this is seen when we look at shooting efficiency and points scored).  When we look at the other stats, we see that Hamilton was also able to avoid turnovers and personal fouls, while being above average with respect to assists. 

Unfortunately he was not good at everything.  Hamilton has generally been below average with respect to rebounds, steals, and blocked shots.  It’s important to note that this is not a comparison of Hamilton to all other NBA players.  This is only a comparison of Hamilton to the average shooting guard.  And relative to other two-guards, Hamilton has never done very well with respect to many of the non-scoring factors.

The Saunders Impact, Hamilton’s Misperception, and the Scoring Decline

What’s interesting is that prior to Saunders coming to town, Hamilton was also a below average scorer.  Hamilton did not post an above average adjusted field goal percentage until 2005-06 (Saunders first year in Detroit).   

So when we look at the numbers, it seems that Rip Hamilton is very wrong.  In terms of shooting efficiency, Hamilton’s best season was last year. And in his career, Hamilton played his best with Saunders as his coach. 

How do we explain the difference between Hamilton’s perceptions and the numbers?

The answer, I think, lies in the focus on per game scoring.  As noted in the past, salaries (and other evaluations made by decision-makers in the NBA) are primarily determined by how many points a player scores per game.  And when we look at points per game - listed for Hamilton below — we see some justification for the Hamilton-McCosky viewpoint.

2007-08: 17.3

2006-07: 19.8

2005-06: 20.1

2004-05: 18.7

2003-04: 17.6

2002-03: 19.7

2001-02: 20.0

2000-01: 18.1

1999-oo: 9.0

Career average: 17.9

In terms of per game scoring, last season’s average was Hamilton’s lowest since his rookie year.   Again, scoring per game dominates player evaluation in the NBA.  And Hamilton’s self-evaluation is consistent with that tendency.

Now what if you went to Hamilton and noted that although his scoring was down, his shooting efficiency and turnovers had shown improvement?  It turns out that shooting efficiency and turnovers don’t seem to have much impact on player pay.  Therefore I would expect you would find that Hamilton would discount improvement in these areas.

Although shooting efficiency might be overlooked, one still might wonder how Hamilton improved upon his adjusted field goal percentage and still saw his points per game decline.  One factor that explains this inconsistency is how many minutes Hamilton played in 2007-08.  Last year Hamilton only played 33.7 minutes per game, his lowest per game total since the 2002-03 season.  Obviously when your minutes decline, your total scoring (and your other stats) will also decline (this is why stats people tend to focus on production per minute, or per 48 minutes). 

Declining minutes, though, isn’t the whole story.  Another issue is free throw attempts. Hamilton only went to the line 221 times last season, his lowest number of charity stripe attempts since his rookie year.  Hamilton is an above average free throw shooter, so when his free throw attempts decline that hurts the team.

Now why did Hamilton shoot less at the line?  For that question I am simply going to offer this possibility.  I think it’s possible that the offense Saunders employed resulted in Hamilton getting more open looks.   Certainly this could explain why Hamilton’s adjusted field goal percentage was so high.  And with more open looks, the players guarding Hamilton might not have been close enough to him to foul.  Hence we end up with fewer free throw attempts.

Regardless of how his free throw attempts declined, the drop-off in this area of his game did impose a cost on the Pistons.  But this cost is more than offset by other improvements in Hamilton’s game.  Relative to his career averages, Hamilton was better in 2007-08 with respect to adjusted field goal percentage, steals, turnovers, assists, and personal fouls.  Consequently, his Wins Produced and Win Score - two measures that consider all the box score statistics - tell us that Hamilton had his best season last year.

So we see that McCosky’s statement that “By almost every measure, 2007-08 was a down season” is not supported by The Wages of Wins metrics.  And his statement… “though his shooting percentage was up, his overall offensive efficiency was down” is also inconsistent with the numbers (and I would add, this statement didn’t entirely make sense even without the numbers).

A Lack of Discipline?

What about the discipline issue?  A few days ago I thought I heard Rasheed Wallace in an interview make the same argument.   Apparently Saunders is not enough of a disciplinarian. 

This whole argument is not a new to sports, but still strikes me as odd.  And it’s not something that just players argue.  Professional athletes are well paid and it’s the owners who agree to these contracts.  These very owners - who freely pay the salaries of professional athletes - often argue that a salary cap is necessary because owners cannot control themselves.  In other words - like players - owners need external discipline.  

Again, this strikes me as odd.  You often hear people want to find ways to get other people to behave better.  But I just don’t hear many people outside of sports argue that they personally would behave better if someone simply made them behave better.  At least, I can’t imagine a person accused of a crime getting very far with the argument that the crime wouldn’t have been committed if someone just stopped them from committing the crime.

Yet in sports, this kind of argument about discipline is offered frequently.  Aren’t owners and players generally adults?  Given the money being paid, shouldn’t these adults simply discipline themselves?  My sense is that Flip Saunders would argue that players are indeed adults.  And as adults, they have to do more than blame their own perceived failings — and remember, in the case of Hamilton this was just a perception — on the coach.

- DJ

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Our research on the NBA was summarized HERE.

The Technical Notes at wagesofwins.com provides substantially more information on the published research behind Wins Produced and Win Score

Wins Produced, Win Score, and PAWSmin are also discussed in the following posts:

Simple Models of Player Performance

Wins Produced vs. Win Score

What Wins Produced Says and What It Does Not Say

Introducing PAWSmin — and a Defense of Box Score Statistics

Finally, A Guide to Evaluating Models contains useful hints on how to interpret and evaluate statistical models.

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Richard Hamilton on the Frustrating Flip Saunders

by John - posted Wednesday, October 1st, 2008

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What’s Going on World?

John W. Davis here.  Rip is back in the news.  I wonder is that beard gone yet. Anyway, Rip says he is happy now but last year he became frustrated with former head coach Flip Saunders.  (Did You?)

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CHECK OUT THIS EXCERPT FROM THE DETROIT NEWS:

Pistons’ Hamilton is a happy camper

AUBURN HILLS — For most of last season, Richard Hamilton was not his usual self. He was moody off the court — at least with the media — and at times couldn’t contain his frustration on it, which was evidenced by his career-high 15 technical fouls.

There was speculation he was distracted by the birth of his son, which happened right before the season-opener. That, he says, wasn’t it.

“I had a son, which was one of the greatest times of my life,” Hamilton said Wednesday. “That was not a disappointment. Nothing off the court was a disappointment.”

“I was disappointed at the way Flip (Saunders) did things, that was the frustrating thing about it,” he said.

Hamilton wouldn’t get into specifics, but his major point of contention with Saunders was that he didn’t hold all players accountable for their actions.

“Players like to be challenged and they want discipline, even when they fight at times,” coach Michael Curry said. “Rip was frustrated because he didn’t feel that everybody was being held accountable. Our goal as a coaching staff this year is to do a better job holding everybody accountable every day.”

Hamilton has been a happy camper thus far and is eager to turn the page on last season.

“I don’t want to talk about (Saunders), either,” he said. “It’s a new season and I am glad MC is the coach. You can’t look to the past. I am glad to move on and focus on the season ahead of us.”

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If Rip is happy then I am happy too.  Rip is not a player to make excuse so early in the season I think having his child was an issue.  As the season progressed I believe Flip became an issue.  Richard Hamilton should be the focal point of the outside game and that surely was not the case last season.

All the players keep saying Flip let them slide.  They keep saying that no one was accountable and that Michael Curry will be the coach to do it.

The more they say it, the more I believe them.

Peace,

John W. Davis

www.pistonscast.com

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Slam Online Top 50: Richard Hamilton, No. 40

by John - posted Wednesday, September 17th, 2008

Shoutout to our boy Ryne Nelson the Main Online Editor over there at www.slamonline.com

Check out Slam’s Top 50 NBA player analysis.  I believe they will have 2 more Detroit Pistons on their Top 50 list.  Im hoping Rasheed can sneak in there,  I know Chauncey is going to be there.

SLAMonline Top 50: Richard Hamilton, no. 40

The definitive ranking of the best players in the NBA today…

by Matt Eil

If the SLAMonline Top 50 was based on how a dude looks with a plastic face-mask pressed against his mug, there is little doubt Richard Hamilton would be the Lance of that award. However, Rip, who has sported the mask since the 03-04 season (his “Superman cape,” as he calls it), surely wouldn’t mind the humble ranking.

That’s simply the type of hombre that Hamilton is. He plays big when he needs to. He can score but doesn’t need to score. He doesn’t fiend the spotlight. His career scoring average is a chin hair below 18 ppg, and that number goes up almost 3 points come playoff time – a stage Rip has been to throughout his entire b-ball career minus three seasons with the Wizards (y’all almost forgot that didn’t you).

Rip and winning have gone together for quite a while now. Dude led UConn to its first National Championship in 1999 as the tournament’s Most Outstanding Player, vaulting him to the seventh overall pick that summer. After the 2002 trade to Detroit, Hamilton and the Pistons have gone to the Conference Finals or better in each of his six seasons with the team including 2004-‘05 when Detroit brought it home for the first time since the Laimbeer era.

Rip isn’t your typical NBA stud though. First of all, he probably wouldn’t label himself a stud. The strongest part of his game is arguably his ability to run around a pick better than anyone in the league. And then he keeps running, and running, and then might run some more. Matter of fact, he might just outrun his own dogs, as he claims.

Not only that, despite leading the Pistons in scoring in each of his six seasons in the D, Rip has been second on the squad in assists in five of those years. Point is that Hamilton is the man without acting like the man. It’s not about him.

The examples pile up. The nickname Rip comes from a tattoo he sports in honor of a childhood friend that passed. You ever see Rip in commercials? Doing a skit at the ESPY’s? Pushing his rap albums? All of that is about as likely as me suiting-up next to Hamilton in the red white and blue next fall.

Want more of the SLAMonline Top 50? Check out the archive.

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